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	<title>Comments on: Official Endorsement – Jeff Bell for Utah Democratic Party Chair</title>
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		<title>By: GUy</title>
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		<dc:creator>GUy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 17:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just googling for Utah Common Values and your post was near the top.

A correction on your accusation about Utah Common Value costing X, getting Y results and then dividing those numbers to say therefore each seat cost Z.  UCV was setup to be a long term program to gain votes, it wasn&#039;t designed to be a quick vote catcher but a sort of slow schooling.

So pretty much, the payoff isn&#039;t just based on one year.  The results will slowly build over each election cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just googling for Utah Common Values and your post was near the top.</p>
<p>A correction on your accusation about Utah Common Value costing X, getting Y results and then dividing those numbers to say therefore each seat cost Z.  UCV was setup to be a long term program to gain votes, it wasn&#8217;t designed to be a quick vote catcher but a sort of slow schooling.</p>
<p>So pretty much, the payoff isn&#8217;t just based on one year.  The results will slowly build over each election cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue in Red Zion &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In the Interest of Fairness: Holland Interview and Website</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue in Red Zion &#187; Blog Archive &#187; In the Interest of Fairness: Holland Interview and Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] short time ago, as many of you know, I endorsed Jeff Bell for Chairman of the Utah Democratic Party.  Soon after I posted a KCPW interview with Jeff discussing what he wants to do for the party.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] short time ago, as many of you know, I endorsed Jeff Bell for Chairman of the Utah Democratic Party.  Soon after I posted a KCPW interview with Jeff discussing what he wants to do for the party.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Seegmiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Seegmiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that I had to weigh in on this endorsement discussion due to the fact that Mr. Haring uses  me and my race.

First it is important to know that I feel that Curtis Haring, Jeff Bell and Wayne Holland have all made much appreciated contributions to Democrats and our Party.  We, as a party, should be looking at ways to keep them all doing what they can to keep our party moving forward.  There are some people that are impatient about the progress we are making.  The thing to remember is that we ARE making progress.

Mr. Haring states that I would have won my election regardless of what help the party gave me, simply because I was an experienced campaigner.  I respectfully disagree, Mr. Haring proves my point later in his endorsement when he points out that Brad King, a well known past minority leader, lost in a to a newcomer in a Senate seat that had been held for as long as I can remember by a democrat.  Having experience and being well known helps win races but it takes a lot more that that.  Certainly Republicans Greg Curtis and Carlene Walker can also attest to this as well.

I believe that without the tremendous help that I received from the State Democratic Party, the County Democratic Party, the Young Democrats, Labor, and the many individuals that donated time and money to my campaign, I would have been hard pressed to win.  I worked hard all three times I ran.  Winning political races takes much more than effort from just the candidates, it takes teamwork.  

It would be wrong headed to focus on one idea or one candidate.  Candidates in Utah County have different issues and different constituencies, than Candidates in Salt Lake City.  We need someone heading our party that understands this.  I believe that Wayne Holland has proven that he understands this with the multi-pronged approach that he and the Party took in the last elections.  We are definitely headed in the right direction.  Obama won Salt Lake County the first time for a Democrat Presidential candidate in how many years?  The Republican Speaker of the House lost his reelection bid. Salt Lake county council now has a Democratic majority, and several Democrats running for the legislature in Utah County received over 40%, where in the past it was really big news if ONE Democrat received 30%.  Now is not the time to change course.

Jeff Bell has a chance to do a tremendous service for Democrats in the state by not only continuing his radio program &quot;LEFT OF THE DIAL&quot; on KSL radio but hopefully he can grow his listener base and get a larger and better time slot.  I would hate to see the party loose this progressive radio show on the biggest radio station in the state.  I am afraid that is what would happen if Jeff were to win this election.

If we want to continue to grow the party we need to continue to find ways to work together, stay motivated, and all give what we can to the effort, including time, services, and money.  The current game plan is working and gaining momentum lets stick with it.

We Democrats can win back the majority in Utah, because we care about others and we are truly more fiscally, morally, and environmentally responsible than the other major party in the state.

Representative F. Jay Seegmiller</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that I had to weigh in on this endorsement discussion due to the fact that Mr. Haring uses  me and my race.</p>
<p>First it is important to know that I feel that Curtis Haring, Jeff Bell and Wayne Holland have all made much appreciated contributions to Democrats and our Party.  We, as a party, should be looking at ways to keep them all doing what they can to keep our party moving forward.  There are some people that are impatient about the progress we are making.  The thing to remember is that we ARE making progress.</p>
<p>Mr. Haring states that I would have won my election regardless of what help the party gave me, simply because I was an experienced campaigner.  I respectfully disagree, Mr. Haring proves my point later in his endorsement when he points out that Brad King, a well known past minority leader, lost in a to a newcomer in a Senate seat that had been held for as long as I can remember by a democrat.  Having experience and being well known helps win races but it takes a lot more that that.  Certainly Republicans Greg Curtis and Carlene Walker can also attest to this as well.</p>
<p>I believe that without the tremendous help that I received from the State Democratic Party, the County Democratic Party, the Young Democrats, Labor, and the many individuals that donated time and money to my campaign, I would have been hard pressed to win.  I worked hard all three times I ran.  Winning political races takes much more than effort from just the candidates, it takes teamwork.  </p>
<p>It would be wrong headed to focus on one idea or one candidate.  Candidates in Utah County have different issues and different constituencies, than Candidates in Salt Lake City.  We need someone heading our party that understands this.  I believe that Wayne Holland has proven that he understands this with the multi-pronged approach that he and the Party took in the last elections.  We are definitely headed in the right direction.  Obama won Salt Lake County the first time for a Democrat Presidential candidate in how many years?  The Republican Speaker of the House lost his reelection bid. Salt Lake county council now has a Democratic majority, and several Democrats running for the legislature in Utah County received over 40%, where in the past it was really big news if ONE Democrat received 30%.  Now is not the time to change course.</p>
<p>Jeff Bell has a chance to do a tremendous service for Democrats in the state by not only continuing his radio program &#8220;LEFT OF THE DIAL&#8221; on KSL radio but hopefully he can grow his listener base and get a larger and better time slot.  I would hate to see the party loose this progressive radio show on the biggest radio station in the state.  I am afraid that is what would happen if Jeff were to win this election.</p>
<p>If we want to continue to grow the party we need to continue to find ways to work together, stay motivated, and all give what we can to the effort, including time, services, and money.  The current game plan is working and gaining momentum lets stick with it.</p>
<p>We Democrats can win back the majority in Utah, because we care about others and we are truly more fiscally, morally, and environmentally responsible than the other major party in the state.</p>
<p>Representative F. Jay Seegmiller</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Justin for the comment.  Danielle, I agree. Let&#039;s keep it civil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Justin for the comment.  Danielle, I agree. Let&#8217;s keep it civil.</p>
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		<title>By: justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 01:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danielle,
Although i disagree with my friend Curtis on what direction the party should go in, i do not believe that that means he has poor judgment or no common sense. Curtis has looked at the issues and come to a decision. 
That does not mean he has poor judgment that means he has done due diligence.  
I for one looked at the issues and came up with a different perspective, but i do not think that Curtis or anyone else is going to question my judgment because of it.
If anyone here has shown poor judgment or a lack of common sense it is you for coming on to someone&#039;s website and attacking them personally, I am sure Curtis would respect your opinion if you came on and disagreed with him (witch i do), but making personal attacks is in bad form.
Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danielle,<br />
Although i disagree with my friend Curtis on what direction the party should go in, i do not believe that that means he has poor judgment or no common sense. Curtis has looked at the issues and come to a decision.<br />
That does not mean he has poor judgment that means he has done due diligence.<br />
I for one looked at the issues and came up with a different perspective, but i do not think that Curtis or anyone else is going to question my judgment because of it.<br />
If anyone here has shown poor judgment or a lack of common sense it is you for coming on to someone&#8217;s website and attacking them personally, I am sure Curtis would respect your opinion if you came on and disagreed with him (witch i do), but making personal attacks is in bad form.<br />
Justin</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 22:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Misty, 

Calling me nasty is ironic considering the things I have heard you say after a few beers.  

Davis, 

I like Curtis too.  That doesn&#039;t change the fact that Curtis has poor judgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misty, </p>
<p>Calling me nasty is ironic considering the things I have heard you say after a few beers.  </p>
<p>Davis, </p>
<p>I like Curtis too.  That doesn&#8217;t change the fact that Curtis has poor judgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Davis Didjeridu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davis Didjeridu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 04:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danielle, whoever you are, you are a horrible person.  I&#039;ve known Curtis a lot longer than you and can refute everything you&#039;ve said.  I hope no one listens to you ever either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danielle, whoever you are, you are a horrible person.  I&#8217;ve known Curtis a lot longer than you and can refute everything you&#8217;ve said.  I hope no one listens to you ever either.</p>
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		<title>By: jasonthe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasonthe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently links are disabled here, so take two (cut and paste):

Jeff Bell:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVW4n89k5Yg

Wayne Holland: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N40osg-IZ9E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently links are disabled here, so take two (cut and paste):</p>
<p>Jeff Bell:  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVW4n89k5Yg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVW4n89k5Yg</a></p>
<p>Wayne Holland: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N40osg-IZ9E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N40osg-IZ9E</a></p>
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		<title>By: jasonthe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jasonthe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bell gave great speech at the Weber Convention (Cache Convention state candidate speeches online soon).  Video here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVW4n89k5Yg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Candidate, Jeff Bell&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N40osg-IZ9E&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Incumbent, Wayne Holland&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bell gave great speech at the Weber Convention (Cache Convention state candidate speeches online soon).  Video here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVW4n89k5Yg" rel="nofollow">Candidate, Jeff Bell</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N40osg-IZ9E" rel="nofollow">Incumbent, Wayne Holland</a></p>
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		<title>By: Misty Fowler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misty Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dannielle,

That&#039;s a pretty nasty and low comment. You hint at some nasty rumor, without talking about anything substantial. You&#039;re here to put Curtis down on a personal level, because you apparently can&#039;t refute his endorsement of Jeff Bell. That&#039;s so very juvenile. If you disagree, I would think you should give reasons why you support Wayne instead, not try to sling mud at Curtis because he supports Jeff.

I&#039;m glad Curtis&#039; politics are not based in that sort of crap.

 - Misty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dannielle,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a pretty nasty and low comment. You hint at some nasty rumor, without talking about anything substantial. You&#8217;re here to put Curtis down on a personal level, because you apparently can&#8217;t refute his endorsement of Jeff Bell. That&#8217;s so very juvenile. If you disagree, I would think you should give reasons why you support Wayne instead, not try to sling mud at Curtis because he supports Jeff.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad Curtis&#8217; politics are not based in that sort of crap.</p>
<p> &#8211; Misty</p>
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