Comments on: How to Kill our Republic http://blueinredzion.com/2009/08/how-to-kill-our-republic/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=how-to-kill-our-republic Poorly Spelled, Properly Thought Out. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:20:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: David McGee http://blueinredzion.com/2009/08/how-to-kill-our-republic/comment-page-1/#comment-499 David McGee Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:37:30 +0000 http://blueinredzion.com/?p=664#comment-499 I should clarify that some Founding Fathers did trust the masses but I think it is safe to say that the majority did not. Hence the way the election of public officials was originally constructed. I should clarify that some Founding Fathers did trust the masses but I think it is safe to say that the majority did not. Hence the way the election of public officials was originally constructed.

]]> By: David McGee http://blueinredzion.com/2009/08/how-to-kill-our-republic/comment-page-1/#comment-498 David McGee Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:36:17 +0000 http://blueinredzion.com/?p=664#comment-498 First off I agree with both of Dylan and Curtis in that civil discourse is a necessity of a civil society. But these despicable/childish actions do nothing to serve the country that these “patriots” profess to love. If you ask many of these "protesters" (I use quotations because in my mind to be a protester you have to have some understanding of the issues at stake otherwise you are simply a mob of the worst variety.) I will bet they say they are a strict constitutionalist/libertarian (apologies Dylan) But they say these things with little to no understanding of what those things mean. So I am beginning to think lets take them at their word. Let’s start interpreting the constitution literally. Senators are no longer elected by popular vote. In order to vote at all you must be a property owner. (We will keep the 14th and 15th amendments of course) President is elected by electors to whom the popular vote is merely suggestion. Etc. The reasoning behind the initial set up of this government was that the Founding Fathers frankly did not trust the population as a whole. Something that was reinforced in their mind with the French revolution. We were never, have never been, and were never intended to be a democracy. I am sad to say these "citizens" are proving our Founding Fathers right in their distrust of the masses. That said I also wouldn’t be opposed to the granting of more Letters of Marque. I am so tired of the Canadians sporting about on their boats. Of course I can also see some crazy reps using Letters of Marque to justify the ridiculous Minute Men. So maybe we will just leave that whole issue for another time. First off I agree with both of Dylan and Curtis in that civil discourse is a necessity of a civil society. But these despicable/childish actions do nothing to serve the country that these “patriots” profess to love. If you ask many of these “protesters” (I use quotations because in my mind to be a protester you have to have some understanding of the issues at stake otherwise you are simply a mob of the worst variety.) I will bet they say they are a strict constitutionalist/libertarian (apologies Dylan) But they say these things with little to no understanding of what those things mean. So I am beginning to think lets take them at their word. Let’s start interpreting the constitution literally. Senators are no longer elected by popular vote. In order to vote at all you must be a property owner. (We will keep the 14th and 15th amendments of course) President is elected by electors to whom the popular vote is merely suggestion. Etc. The reasoning behind the initial set up of this government was that the Founding Fathers frankly did not trust the population as a whole. Something that was reinforced in their mind with the French revolution. We were never, have never been, and were never intended to be a democracy. I am sad to say these “citizens” are proving our Founding Fathers right in their distrust of the masses. That said I also wouldn’t be opposed to the granting of more Letters of Marque. I am so tired of the Canadians sporting about on their boats. Of course I can also see some crazy reps using Letters of Marque to justify the ridiculous Minute Men. So maybe we will just leave that whole issue for another time.

]]> By: Dylan http://blueinredzion.com/2009/08/how-to-kill-our-republic/comment-page-1/#comment-497 Dylan Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:34:22 +0000 http://blueinredzion.com/?p=664#comment-497 Good blog. I do disagree with you that shouters are not necessarily "not patriotic" but I would tend to say that they are not open to civil debate. As far as threats go...they should be taken seriously and cited for public disorder or something (I am no police officer...so I don't really know). Curtis, I know you and I can agree on one thing...civil debate and discourse is the essential part that makes democracy so great, and unfortunately it seems as though too many people just want us to either shutup and not voice our opinions while others are yelling theirs at us without listening. *shrug* Two thumbs up Good blog.

I do disagree with you that shouters are not necessarily “not patriotic” but I would tend to say that they are not open to civil debate.

As far as threats go…they should be taken seriously and cited for public disorder or something (I am no police officer…so I don’t really know).

Curtis, I know you and I can agree on one thing…civil debate and discourse is the essential part that makes democracy so great, and unfortunately it seems as though too many people just want us to either shutup and not voice our opinions while others are yelling theirs at us without listening. *shrug* Two thumbs up

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